Info-Atari16 Digest         Mon, 20 Jan 92       Volume 92 : Issue  30
 
Today's Topics:
   1 Meg 520 ST with 2sided floppy for sale: ALL OFFERS CONSIDERED
                    Atari developer documentation
                Atari ST Hardware and Software ForSale
                         Common Lisp (2 msgs)
                           Gnustuff updates
      HELP needed (UNIX arc,zoo.lharc : gdb : ST as typewriter)
                    I'd like a CPX to... (2 msgs)
                        IBM software emulator
                       I cant get Zoo to work!
                           jrd-emacs-probs
                Still in search of SCSI tape software
                         Stuck in Knightmare
                   Unzooing big files on one drive
               WANTED: Atari ST sequencing software...
                         What to do? (2 msgs)
                           Zmodem and UNIX
 
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Date: 20 Jan 92 18:00:52 GMT
From: alvin!ravi@mcnc.org (Ravi Subrahmanyan)
Subject: 1 Meg 520 ST with 2sided floppy for sale: ALL OFFERS CONSIDERED
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
        For Sale:  520 ST (Atari) 1 Meg RAM, Mono monitor, C compiler, 50 disks
        ---------
 
        Make me an offer, this machine is sitting around doing nothing
        and I'd rather see it used for something!  All reasonable
        offers are acceptable.
 
                   $400 or best offer
 
                520 ST with 1 Meg RAM (68000 processor)
 
                Atari's great black-on-white
                monitor, 640x480.
 
                1 double sided floppy drive
                1 single sided floppy drive
                Mark Williams C compiler
 
                50 disks with all sorts of software
 
   Ravi Subrahmanyan
   ravi@ace4.sps.mot.com
   (512) 345-4187 (home), (512) 928-7371 (work)
 
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Date: 20 Jan 92 08:07:05 GMT
From: mcsun!sun4nl!ahds!geert@uunet.uu.net (Geert W.T. Jonkheer CCS/TS)
Subject: Atari developer documentation
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
In article <10238@cactus.org>, covert@cactus.org (Richard Covert) writes:
> In article <1992Jan17.075620.6104@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mmiller@isis.cs.du.edu
 (Mark Miller) writes:
> >This is truly a great event in the history of Atari, since the
> >Tramiels took over anyway.  I believe there was such documentation
>
> Well this is truly a great thing, it is just a little too late!!
>
Well, maybe it helps to place all the documentation to the net. There
are so many readers, who are interested in it, I think. Maybe this is
the only and fair way to get the documentation. What about
other opinions?
 
Geert.
 
--
================================================================================
 ============                  Geert W.T. Jonkheer.               =============
   ========== Ahold  N.V.  The  Netherlands  geert@ccsds.ahold.nl ==========
      ===================================================================
 
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Date: 20 Jan 92 15:59:41 GMT
From: zephyr.ens.tek.com!vice!keithr@uunet.uu.net (U.D.M.)
Subject: Atari ST Hardware and Software ForSale
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
I have the following hardware and software for sale.  Prices DO NOT
include shipping.  Add $2.00 for first class shipping on software or
$3.00 for second day air.  Shipping on hardware depends on where you
live.  Please respond via e-mail so I can make sure first come,
first served.  Thank you.
 
 
Hardware
--------
Atari 1040ST
  with Color Monitor           450.00
  with Monochrome Monitor      350.00
  *Note: I only have one ST
   and two monitors.  I'll
   be selling the monitor not
   sold with the system
   seperately later.
Supra 20Mb hard drive          200.00
   shoe box style
 
Graphics Applications
---------------------
Migraph Touch Up                50.00
Migraph Easy Draw 2.3           40.00
       with Easy Tools
Print Master Plus               15.00
   with Fonts and Borders
Publisher ST                    35.00
Degas Elite                     15.00
 
Games
-----
Eagles Nest                     10.00
Leader Board Golf               10.00
Star Trek - The Rebel Universe  10.00
 
Word Processors
---------------
Word Writer                     25.00
Haba Writer                      5.00
   with Haba Spell
 
Spreadsheets
------------
LDW Power                       50.00
Analyze                          5.00
 
Accounting
----------
Phaser 4.01                     30.00
Home Accountant                  5.00
 
Programming Languages
---------------------
Mark Williams C v 3.0           50.00
   with csd source debugger
 
Desk Acc
--------
Migraph OSpooler                15.00
G+Plus                          15.00
Codehead Multi-Desk             10.00
 
Communications
--------------
Flash 1.6                       10.00
ST-Talk                          5.00
 
Game Creator Software
---------------------
STOS Game Creator               15.00
TaleSpin                        15.00
 
Misc Stuff
----------
Migraph DeskJet GDOS Driver     20.00
   with 3 150/300dpi fonts
Michtron Backup                  5.00
Typing Tutor                     5.00
Universal Item Selector II       7.00
Music Studio (color only)        5.00
Fontz                           10.00
Turbo ST                        10.00
Word Quest                      10.00
Word Quest 2 Neo Desk 2.0       10.00
 
 
Keith Rast
keithr@icogem3.ICO.TEK.COM
 
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Date: 20 Jan 92 12:02:21 GMT
From: otter.hpl.hp.com!hpltoad!ghiggins!gjh@hplabs.hp.com (Graham Higgins)
Subject: Common Lisp
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
> There is an English version of CLISP, I thought it's already at
> atari.archive. But if it's not, you can get it via anonymous ftp from
> ma2s2.mathematik.uni-karlsruhe.de in pub/atari/clisp. There is also
> an archive of examples, including CLOSETTE  (by Xerox) which is an
> implementation of a (quite big) subset of CLOS. In general CLISP is
> still a first edition implementation (of Steel, I mean).
 
I have the version currently on a.a which has German messages. I see that there
is a clisp-e.arc on the Karlsruhe archive which I am attempting to d/l at the
moment. I will sling it up to a.a if/when I manage to get it d/led.
 
I will also try to get the examples.
 
> The e-mail adress of one of the authors, Bruno Haible, is
> haible@ma2s2.mathematik.uni-karlsruhe.de.
 
 
Many thanks for the information.
 
--
Graham Higgins
<< My opinions above are exactly that: my own, and opinions. >>
 
------------------------------
 
Date: 20 Jan 92 13:11:56 GMT
From: otter.hpl.hp.com!hpltoad!ghiggins!gjh@hplabs.hp.com (Graham Higgins)
Subject: Common Lisp
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
I wrote:
 
> I have the version currently on a.a which has German messages. I see that
> there is a clisp-e.arc on the Karlsruhe archive which I am attempting to d/l
> at the moment. I will sling it up to a.a if/when I manage to get it d/led.
>
> I will also try to get the examples.
 
I have sucessfully uploaded both files to atari.archive. Interested parties
should look for clisp-e.arc and examples.zoo in %ftp/atari/languages.
 
--
Graham Higgins
<< My opinions above are exactly that: my own, and opinions. >>
 
------------------------------
 
Date: 20 Jan 92 13:28:14 GMT
From: otter.hpl.hp.com!hpltoad!ghiggins!gjh@hplabs.hp.com (Graham Higgins)
Subject: Gnustuff updates
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
++jrb has released the following GNU s/w update which now appears on
atari.archive in directory %ftp/atari/gnustuff/tos/updates as "update14.zoo".
++jrb comments:
 
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
If you use mintlib and not tos lib (or if you use both) then you should be
paying attention to changes in the following library files and merging the
changes into the corresponding files in mintlib yourself, or you may wish to
wait for Eric to release an updated version.
 
main.c, unlink.c, fread.c, scanf.c (replace with this file), atof.c,
crt0.c, gmon.c, malloc.c, sbrk.c, isatty.c, unistd.h, mkdir.c.
 
see the Changelog diffs to see what the changes were.
 
Of course the changes in gemlib, pml, curses, etc are all applicable to both
tos and MiNT users.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
AFAIK, none of these updates have been applied to the archives in gnustuff/tos
 
Archive update14.zoo:
Length    CF  Size Now  Date      Time
--------  --- --------  --------- -----
    1958  46%     1056  15 Jan 92 11:33  ./README (V2.1)
  209843  52%   100512  15 Jan 92 11:33  ./gdb/gdb.ttp (V2.1)
     979  80%      199  15 Jan 92 11:33  ./gdb/init.c (V2.1)
  211294  80%    43090  15 Jan 92 11:33  ./gdb/diffs (V2.1)
    1682  59%      696  15 Jan 92 11:33  ./curses/diffs (V2.1)
    5734  72%     1603  15 Jan 92 11:33  ./util/diffs (V2.1)
    3837  67%     1284  15 Jan 92 11:33  ./pml/diffs (V2.1)
    2889  55%     1304  15 Jan 92 11:33  ./include/gdbm.h (V2.1)
   15568  71%     4587  15 Jan 92 11:33  ./include/diffh (V2.1)
     347  34%      230  15 Jan 92 11:33  ./include/sys/timeb.h (V2.1)
     848  55%      380  15 Jan 92 11:33  ./lib/timeoday.c (V2.1)
     491  43%      279  15 Jan 92 11:33  ./lib/getpass.c (V2.1)
     699  42%      403  15 Jan 92 11:33  ./lib/binmode.c (V2.1)
   11532  68%     3693  15 Jan 92 11:33  ./lib/scanf.c (V2.1)
   16755  64%     6073  15 Jan 92 11:33  ./lib/unx2dos.c (V2.1)
   47944  67%    15816  15 Jan 92 11:33  ./lib/diffc (V2.1)
     642  55%      286  15 Jan 92 11:33  ./flex/flexdef.hdiff (V2.1)
     965  64%      346  15 Jan 92 11:33  ./bc/scanl.diff (V2.1)
    4541  62%     1717  15 Jan 92 11:33  ./bc/Makefile.st (V2.1)
    1478  71%      435  15 Jan 92 11:33  ./gcc/gcc.cdiff (V2.1)
    8437  71%     2427  15 Jan 92 11:33  ./gemlib/vdibez.c (V2.1)
   19176  73%     5131  15 Jan 92 11:33  ./gemlib/diffs (V2.1)
   16330  70%     4963  15 Jan 92 11:33  ./gemlib/vdiesc1.c (V2.1)
     258  31%      177  15 Jan 92 11:33  ./gmp/diffs (V2.1)
   13454  77%     3085  15 Jan 92 11:33  ./gmp/Makefile.st (V2.1)
     320  46%      172  15 Jan 92 11:33  ./Documentation/gcc-st.diff (V2.1)
     630  43%      361  15 Jan 92 11:33  ./881/_fixunsd.s (V2.1)
    2919  63%     1090  15 Jan 92 11:33  ./gdbm/Makefile.st (V2.1)
    4645  69%     1418  15 Jan 92 11:33  ./gdbm/atari.diffs (V2.1)
    1048  73%      286  15 Jan 92 11:33  ./xbra/fig1.fig (V2.1)
    1232  76%      298  15 Jan 92 11:33  ./xbra/fig2.fig (V2.1)
    1111  70%      332  15 Jan 92 11:33  ./xbra/fig1.tex (V2.1)
    1349  73%      364  15 Jan 92 11:33  ./xbra/fig2.tex (V2.1)
   19002  63%     7021  15 Jan 92 11:33  ./xbra/xbra.tex (V2.1)
     313  47%      165  15 Jan 92 11:33  ./xbra/Makefile (V2.1)
   28025  55%    12492  15 Jan 92 11:33  ./xbra/xbra.list (V2.1)
--------  --- --------  --------- -----
  658275  66%   223771    36 files
------------
V: minimum version of Zoo needed to extract this file.
 
Cheers,
 
--
Graham Higgins
<< My opinions above are exactly that: my own, and opinions. >>
 
------------------------------
 
Date: 20 Jan 92 14:58:03 GMT
From: mnemosyne.cs.du.edu!isis.cs.du.edu!jbunch@uunet.uu.net (John Bunch)
Subject: HELP needed (UNIX arc,zoo.lharc : gdb : ST as typewriter)
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
In article <1992Jan17.121414.12486@bradford.ac.uk> A.J.Leaper@bradford.ac.uk
 (AJ.LEAPER) writes:
>In article <9201161155.AA23501@v1.cm.cf.ac.uk> Andrew.Stratton@cm.cf.ac.uk
 (Andrew F Stratton) writes:
>>
>>      Can anyone help with :-
>>
>>      1. Are there versions of arc, zoo, lharc that run on SUN 4's or VAX?
>>
>
>On the SUN system here at the University we have arc and zoo they both run
>on SUN 4's.
>
>I'm not sure where you would get hold of arc but I got a Unix version of zoo
>from the NPDSA at Lancaster University.  In the directory /tools they have
>UNIX and VMS versions of zoo v2.1 (latest version).
>
>I've not seen a version of lharc for Unix but I and a number of people that
>I know would be interested in hearing if anybody out there has got a version.
>
>Andy
>(88648967@uk.ac.bradford)
 
I have a version of lharc and Zip/Unzip that are running on the unix machine
here and on my machine at work(Sun Sparc 1+).  I can dig up the sites that I
ftp'ed the source from..  I will post it in a couple of days...
 
 
John Bunch.
 
 
 
 
 
{line eater}
 
 
 
{More of the same}
 
------------------------------
 
Date: 20 Jan 92 12:35:30 GMT
From: mcsun!uknet!ox-prg!adrian@uunet.uu.net (Adrian Cox)
Subject: I'd like a CPX to...
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
There are two CPXs I'd like to have.  I don't know if these have
been written, and if they're available, as archie searches are
difficult without a filename.  If these exist, and are available for
anonymous ftp (or mail server, as our name server isn't working yet so
I can't use Terminator) please tell me.
 
1.  Disk step rate control.  I have one 5 1/4" drive and one 3 1/2"
drive, and I'd like to set a 6ms step rate for the 5 1/4".
 
2.  Boot up control.  I'm currently using a desk accessory and auto
program called Autoload which loads AUTO programs from a list, so that
they don't have to be in the AUTO folder of drive C.  Is there a CPX
based version of the same trick, to save slots?
 
Thanx, Adrian
--
Adrian Cox,              | This is yet another self referential signature.
Robotics Research Group, |
Engineering Science Dept,| I tried, as only a chimneypot can try...
Oxford, UK.              |
 
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Date: 20 Jan 92 14:51:49 GMT
From: mcsun!uknet!warwick!cstdxas@uunet.uu.net (Leo Hendry)
Subject: I'd like a CPX to...
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
I like to know how to write a CPX, where can I get details of the file format?
With this information I can have those to programs written by tomorrow.
 
------------------------------
 
Date: 20 Jan 92 15:15:07 GMT
From: mcsun!uknet!stl!dsbc!ozz!jas@uunet.uu.net (Jason Morris)
Subject: IBM software emulator
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
  Out of interest, surely it would be possible to compile from a disassembled
version of the PC program. Wouldn't this just be compilation of a different
language?
 
  Just my 2 ECUs worth,
 
    Jas.
--
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
| Jason Morris         jas@oasis.icl.co.uk           +44 344 424842 ext 2662 |
|     ICL Computers Ltd, BRA01, Lovelace Rd, Bracknell, Berks, England.      |
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|               I do not speak for ICL. I speak for everyone...              |
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
------------------------------
 
Date: 20 Jan 92 17:31:50 GMT
From:
 noao!asuvax!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!news.cs.indiana.edu!umn.edu!cs.u
 mn.edu!thelake!steve@arizona.edu (Steve Yelvington)
Subject: I cant get Zoo to work!
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
[In article <9201192315.aa15112@Bonnie.ics.uci.edu>,
     ehohnbau@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU writes ... ]
 
 > After I click on zoo.ttp and the the parameter box I tried:
 >
 > x zooboy.zoo
 > x zooboy
 > x [aA]:[\] zooboy[.zoo]
 >      In other words, I tried both with and without the .zoo extender
 > on every other option, and I tried both upper and lower case on the
 > drive option, and with and without the backslash.
 >
 > The only thing that happens is that it takes me right back to the
 > GEM desktop.
 
You didn't mention what model of ST or what version of TOS you're using.
>From your description, I'll bet lunch that the TOS version is < 1.4.
Old TOS converts .TTP arguments to upper case. That won't work with
ZOO. (If you were using a command interpreter shell, such as Gulam or
Mupfel, you would not have a problem.)
 
I'm mailing you, separately, a copy of ZOOSHELL that is archived with
ARC.TTP. You should be able to extract it using any version of ARC, and
then ZOO should be easy to use.
 
 
 --
 Steve Yelvington, Marine on St. Croix, Minnesota     <steve@thelake.mn.org>
 Note: Mail to the .mn.org domain has been failing for about a month.
       If your mail bounces, try cs.umn.edu!thelake!steve.
       It's probably another side effect of the Super Bowl.
       (I'm praying for a blizzard on Super Sunday.)
 
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Date: 20 Jan 92 14:19:31 GMT
From: mcsun!unido!sbsvax!oliver@uunet.uu.net (Oliver van Sprang)
Subject: jrd-emacs-probs
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
using jrd's gnu-emacs on a mega2 under a gulam shell we
got the following problems
 
- It is impossible to enter characters like \ [] {} a.s.o.
 
- it is not possible to start a shell running as a subprocess.
  After setting ESHELL to d:gu.prg (i use gulaem as cli
  and set everything like you wrote in readme.jrd
  and entering M-x shell i got
  symbol's definition is void: get-buffer-process
 
If anyone knows how to overcome these problems, or where to
get 18.57 for the atari i would be glad to receive your
answer as e-mail.
Thanks in advance
oliver@cs.uni-sb.de
--
Oliver van Sprang
FB 14-Informatik
Universitaet des Saarlandes
Im Stadtwald 15
E-mail:  oliver@cs.uni-sb.de
Telefon: 0681 302 4165
 
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Date: 20 Jan 92 14:59:00 GMT
From: STONY-BROOK.SCRC.SYMBOLICS.COM!jrd@ucbvax.berkeley.edu (John R. Dunning)
Subject: Still in search of SCSI tape software
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
I'm still looking for software to drive a generic SCSI tapedrive through
an ICD host adapter.  My last query to the net turned up a bunch of
responses referencing a TSR and backup application written by Paul
Moreau, but alas, none of the people that had a copy were willing to
ship it to me, and nobody seems to know where I could get hold of
sources for it.
 
Does anybody have sources for this thing, or anything else that's able
to talk to SCSI devices?  A related question; is the panarthea archive
server still in business?  I can't seem to get a response from it
recently.  Is there another place that archives comp.sources.atari?
 
As before, please respond via e-mail.  Thanks in advance for any
software or info.
 
------------------------------
 
Date: 20 Jan 92 16:15:55 GMT
From: mcsun!uknet!warwick!nott-cs!mjb@uunet.uu.net (M J Brownlow)
Subject: Stuck in Knightmare
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
I'm stuck in Knightmare (Bloody obvious from the subject line!!) on the
quest for the sword (Quest 3) at the riddle "When is a well not a well?"
 
I have done the rest of the level its on, and got a gold coin from the
jester in the fireball room. Any help anyone???
 
If anyone needs help from earlier in the game, I can help.
 
------------------------------
 
Date: 20 Jan 92 09:33:21 GMT
From: mcsun!uknet!edcastle!hwcs!neil@uunet.uu.net (Neil Forsyth)
Subject: Unzooing big files on one drive
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
In article <1992Jan15.132654.6403@fwi.uva.nl> storm@fwi.uva.nl
(Richard G.C. Storm (I89)) writes:
>Can anybody tell me how to unzoo a acrhived program(500 K) if
>you have only one drive.
>
>Zoo.ttp and the file just fit on the disk.
>
>Is using the file in a ram-disk a solution then tell me please
>how to redirect the unpacked files to drive A. If the unpacked files are
>written on the ram disk is runs out of memory .
 
The trick I use on such occasions when my HD isn't switched on is to open two
windows. One with the archive and archiver and the other empty to receive the
data. Make the empty drive the active window and so the current directory.
Hold down the right hand mouse button and double click with the left button on
the archiver. This allows you to start up an application from the non-active
window. Specify the exact path, including drive, to the TTP commandline then
press return. Some experimentation with RAM disc size may be necessary.
 
Or use a shell ...
 
+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
! DISCLAIMER:Unless otherwise stated, the above comments are entirely my own !
!                                                                            !
! Neil Forsyth                      JANET:  neil@uk.ac.hw.cs                 !
! Dept. of Computer Science         ARPA:   neil@cs.hw.ac.uk                 !
! Heriot-Watt University            UUCP:   ..!ukc!cs.hw.ac.uk!neil          !
! Edinburgh, Scotland, UK           "That was never 5 minutes!"              !
+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
 
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Date: 20 Jan 92 15:31:04 GMT
From: aurs01!whitcomb@mcnc.org (Jonathan Whitcomb)
Subject: WANTED: Atari ST sequencing software...
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
In article <AD0834.92Jan18162703@sarah.albany.edu> ad0834@csc.albany.edu (Andy
 Dickinson) writes:
>Hi -
>
>       I'm looking to buy a MIDI sequencer for my Atari ST.  If
>anyone has one they'd like to sell, please e-mail me...
 
A few years ago Intelligent Music put out an interesting sequencer
called "RealTime" that gives you virtually unlimited number of tracks
(you run out of tracks when you run out of memory) and lots of unusual
and interesting features.
 
Dr.T's Music software took over distribution of many of Intelligent Music's
products (including 'M', the interactive composing tool), and is now
offering a closeout on RealTime if you order directly from them.  It
originally sold for $200+, and now they are selling it for $80.  I got
a copy, and while I will continue to use KCS Omega as my primary sequencer,
RealTime offers some interesting options and variation for those times
when I want to experiment or be a little more 'spontaneous' than I can be
with KCS.
 
You can order from Dr.T's directly at (617) 455-1454.
**********************************************************************
Jonathan Whitcomb                    UUCP: <whitcomb%aurgate@mcnc.org>
Alcatel Network Systems              Delphi: JBWHIT
Raleigh, NC                          GEnie: J.WHITCOMB3
 
------------------------------
 
Date: 20 Jan 92 12:19:21 GMT
From:
 noao!ncar!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!yale.edu!think.com!wupost!waika
 to.ac.nz!comp.vuw.ac.nz!actrix!Roger.Sheppard@arizona.edu (Roger Sheppard)
Subject: What to do?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
In article <1992Jan20.011530.156@demon.co.uk> Keith Sommerville
 <ksommerville@cix.compulink.co.uk> writes:
> Have you looked more closely at the HD in your TT? I have the same spec TT as
> you and the label on the bottom of the TT says 8Mb/40Mb. The drive was
 partiti-
> onedi
> into 4 10Meg partitions. However, looking at it with ICD software revealed
 tha-
> t it was
> it was a 48.5 meg drive. Why do Atari hide something like that, or is it just
 -
> a one
> one off?
 
Yes these are Seagate  ST157N drives, not as fast as the New Quantum LPS105S..
--
***  Roger W. Sheppard      *      Roger.Sheppard@bbs.actrix.gen.nz  ***
***  85 Donovan Rd        *    *   GEnie.  R.SHEPPARD5               ***
***  Kapiti                        At least I don't Flicker,         ***
***  New Zealand..          *      not like a dying light globe      ***
 
------------------------------
 
Date: 20 Jan 92 17:38:32 GMT
From:
 cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu!crabapple.srv.cs.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!mg20+@cs.roch
 ester.edu (Michael Paul Greelish)
Subject: What to do?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
gfarrell@tomato.csil.sfu.ca (Gordon James Farrell) writes:
 
"...According to the January, 1992 issue of AtariUser, the TT040 will
_show_ this spring at CeBIT, but won't actually hit the shelf until 12
to 18 months after that.
 
Regarding "broadcast graphics resolution", that probably means something
like 1024x768, like the supposedly upcoming 24-bit board mentioned in
c.s.atari.st.tech (I hope it's true, and also available for a "humble"
TT030 :-) )."
 
What to do:
 
Pick up a copy of the January 1992 issue of _AmigaWorld_. (gasp!)
 
Read the articles on '040 accelerators for $2500 or so.
 
Look at the ads for 24-bit, up to 1280x1024 graphics boards, RAM boards
with up to 64 Meg, desktop-video boards, and tons and tons of very
groovy graphics software.
 
Also, take a look at a Mac Quadra or an Amiga 3000/25 at your local
computer store, which by this point is denying that Atari ever existed.
 
Weep for the state of Atari product design and marketing.
 
Flames are expected but not particularly appreciated.
 
______________________________________________________
Mike Greelish                      mg20@andrew.cmu.edu
Carnegie Mellon University, Professional Writing major
"...but unfortunately, SHIT AIN'T LIKE THAT!"
---"Body Count", Body Count featuring Ice-T
 
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Date: 20 Jan 92 15:09:52 GMT
From: mnemosyne.cs.du.edu!isis.cs.du.edu!jbunch@uunet.uu.net (John Bunch)
Subject: Zmodem and UNIX
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
In article <1992Jan17.151004.9116@ericsson.se> etmelag@sunbeam15.ericsson.se
 (Louis Lagendijk) writes:
>In article <1992Jan17.033327.4435@cco.caltech.edu> remyh@cco.caltech.edu (Remy
 Adam Hathaway) writes:
>>I'm having trouble sending and receiving files using zmodem.  Here's my setup:
>>
>>      I'm on a 1040ST, running Uniterm.  I'm hooked up to a 9600 baud port
>>of a network server that is hooked up to a Sun Sparcstation running SunOS 4.1.
>>I've tried xyz2.01, sz and rz 1.7 and 1.8.  I've occasionally had success with
>>them, but very little.  When I use sz/rz, I get 'bad subpacket' length, though
>>I've altered packet lengths to kingdom-come.  When I use xyz, I get 'bad file
>>number' or something, which says in the docs that it's 'A serious bug in XYZ
>>or TOS.'
>>      I've turned Xon/Xoff on and off, tried the -e option with sz on the
>>UNIX end, etc.  Any suggestions?
>>
>>                                      Sick of Kermit,
>>                                      remyh@cco.caltech.edu
>>
>Yes, it looks like your network server messes around with the
>data. It either removes or translates certain characters in
>either direction. Try kermit with the 7-bit option, and check
>whether that helps.
>Cheers, Louis
 
 
I have a 9600 dialup connection to a decserver and connect to a sun
at work, and I have a few things I have to do to get zmodem to work.
First I call up and connect to the server, then I connect to the sun.
After I am logged in I go back to the server and set the session to
passall.  I go back to the session and then run zmodem like so:
     sz -w 2048 filename.ext
 
It works fine for me..  I get an average throughput of 1100 cps....
 
 
 
Hope this helps???
 
 
Oh, the server is a decserver....
 
 
John Bunch.
 
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