Info-Atari16 Digest         Tue,  4 Feb 92       Volume 92 : Issue  65
 
Today's Topics:
          Answer: Crack Art and 'snap' pictures from a game
                      C, gem and sound questions
                              Crack Art!
                                 FTP
                 Matrix handling routines in C needed
             Miscellaneous questions (sorry if frequent)
                         MultiGEM/GDOS/G+Plus
                   Postscript on Atari's in general
      public domain/share ware prog. to convert *.img to *.mac?
          routine needed to make GEM pictures and print them
Sample playing source code on AA (was Re: C, gem and sound questions)
                       STe and Mark Williams C
                         TEX printer problems
                            Uniterm manual
                    VI editor for Atari ST needed
                     Weekly Posting of New Stuff
 
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Date: Mon, 03 Feb 92 16:48:50 MEZ
From: Wolfgang Ley <BWWL%DCZTU1.bitnet@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Subject: Answer: Crack Art and 'snap' pictures from a game
To: Atari ST users forum <Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu>
 
Hi!
 
The version of CrackArt at atari.archive is able to get images from the
memory and save them as pictures.
There is a new version of CrackArt!! Some functions have been added:
- you can search for images in memory and/or disk.
- there is an extra program (for the boot-sector) which is a "snapper"
  for game-pictures. Simply put it in the boot-sector, reboot, start your
  programm and now you can save the memory with a key (or just look at it).
- some graphic routines are optimized (especially for the TT)
 
To get the new version write to the authors (adresses are in the archive).
 
An english doc is still not avaible (but if some people give the donation
of 20.- DM to the authors they are willing to tranalate the docs....)
 
Bye,
  Wolfgang.
 
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Date: 3 Feb 92 23:25:11 GMT
From: noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!ogicse!orstcs!prism!wilsont@arizona.edu
 (Timothy E. Wilson)
Subject: C, gem and sound questions
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
I am just starting up with C programming on the ST.
I borrowed the book "Applications guide: programming in C, for the ST" by
compute! books.
I'm trying to use Sozobon 1.33i with it. I'm trying to get a gem library
up and going but no luck, nothing compiles.
all gemdefs.h and obdefs.h have been changed to gemfast.h .
 
but the cc compiler gives me crap on most of the lines, even though they are
verbatim from the book.
 
so basically, Does anyone have a C Gem library? does AA have one?
 
secondly, Where could i find source code for playing back standard sounds?
(maybe the source to keyclick.ttp?)
 
  thanks!
 
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Date: 3 Feb 92 13:07:36 GMT
From:
 noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!caen!nstar
 !syscon!miked@arizona.edu (Mike DeMetz)
Subject: Crack Art!
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
Does it support JRI/STE 4096 colors?
 
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Date: 3 Feb 92 23:52:17 GMT
From:
 noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!wupost!waikato.ac.nz!comp.vuw.ac.nz!actrix!Rog
 er.Sheppard@arizona.edu (Roger Sheppard)
Subject: FTP
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
Can some one help me a FTP site, this is the cs.uni-sb.de [134.96.252.31]
is it fully operational.?
 
All that I can get up to is a date/time line and then it stops/hangs..!!
 
This has been going on for some days..
 
Thanks..!
--
***  Roger W. Sheppard      *      Roger.Sheppard@bbs.actrix.gen.nz  ***
***  85 Donovan Rd        *    *   GEnie.  R.SHEPPARD5               ***
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Date: Tue, 04 Feb 92 08:48:39 MET
From: "Peter A.J.M. Bronts" <U212307%HNYKUN11.bitnet@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Subject: Matrix handling routines in C needed
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
Where can I find routines in C for handling matrix algebra
i.e. dynamically usable (not static dimensions)
- inverting matrices
- multiplicating matrices
- determinant
- etc.
 
Thanks Peter Bronts
 
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Date: 3 Feb 92 20:55:33 GMT
From:
 noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!nstar!sy
 scon!miked@arizona.edu (Mike DeMetz)
Subject: Miscellaneous questions (sorry if frequent)
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
bwhite@oucsace.cs.OHIOU.EDU (William E. White) writes:
 
 
>1. I've reached my RAM limits trying to do TeX stuff.  I saw a file at
>terminator on how to increase to 2.5 meg using SIPs.  Questions: what
>SIPs should I get, and what the heck is a "veroboard" as described in
>the article?  (Also, just how much is the memory these days?)  Any way
>to get above 2.5 meg?
You should be able to put 4 meg in with various boards or hacking.
 
>2. I also need to get a higher version of TOS.  I hear 1.4 is no longer
>the current standard.  Will higher versions still work with my 68000 and
>wimpy 3-bit RGB registers?  (I also remember seeing an article on how to
>build a board to get around 1.6 million colors ... anyone remember that?)
>Keep in mind I've got TWO ROMS in my board (not sure how many sockets,
>haven't looked in awhile).
Well TOS 2.06 is out but requires an adapter board for STs. 1.4 is still
good.1.6 is for STE.
 
>3. Anyone out there ever placed the ST motherboard in a new case?  I'd
>really really benefit from sticking the whole kit and kaboodle in a
>tower case, maybe put in a new drive, and put my HD there too, and then
>run a cable for the keyboard (I've already got it pseudo-detatched).
>This would also let me stick the miscellaneous add-on boards on.
Yes it has been done though I do not know of a kit to do it.You could
get most of the stuff you need from BESt Electronics.
 
>4. Who sells a cable for the ST to Nec MultiSync 3D?  A switch for mono
>mode would be really appreciated.  (My current cable if you're curious
>consists of about nine heavily tinned wires stuck through two pieces of
>cut-up Tupperware lid for support.  The last one used chopped off safety
>pins. :-) )
Toad computers has a switch box.Making one is not that difficult. The
orginal NEC multisync will not work I have heard.
 
>5. Any hope of sticking a blitter on?  Would this really help me?  (I
>mainly use my ST as a terminal.  Thus, my next posting ...)
If you have the spot on your mother board you probably can .need to
buy blitter,socket and 74ls part.TOS 1.2 is 1.0 for blitter though
you may not have it.
 
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Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1992 16:07 EST
From: CSULLOGG@crl.aecl.ca
Subject: MultiGEM/GDOS/G+Plus
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
Once netter asked why I recommended putting GDOS and G+Plus after Multi-
GEM in the AUTO folder. Quite simply, my system crashed when I put either
one before MultiGEM. My general experience with G+Plus is that it is
very fusy about where it goes in the AUTO folder.
 
BTW, for Mac enthusiasts who may point the finger about AUTO folder
ordersensitivity; I could relate a story on INIT conflicts that would
make the hair stand up on your neck! However, it would take a half hour
to type up!
 
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Date: 3 Feb 92 16:34:22 GMT
From: mcsun!uknet!yorkohm!minster!mjl-b@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Postscript on Atari's in general
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
In article <bart.696867466@dutncp8> bart@dutncp8.tn.tudelft.nl (Bart Schipper)
 writes:
>I wonder why why why you need an interceptor to convert Calamus
>output for 300dpi laserprinters to a postscript file, since the creators
>of Calamus provide drivers for every printer you can think of.
>But yes, if you really want to go back to oldfashioned postscript,
>for Calamus SL, there is a module to convert a Calamus document to EPS.
>I suggest you ask DMC for it.
>Bart.
 
It is this sort of arrogance that annoys me.
 
People want to use Calamus in the real world. This means that we may want to
send our output to printers at work / school or use a typesetter at a
bureau.
 
Calamus' page description language may be superior to PostScript, but
everyone else actually _uses_ PostScript.
 
For this reason, we need proper PostScript on a disk. Telling us that
Calamus direct output is better is no good.
 
Mat
 
| Mathew Lodge              | "What do they call you, boy?" "Kate." "Isn't |
| mjl-b@minster.york.ac.uk  |  that a bit of a girl's name?" "... it's     |
| Summer: lodge%alsys@uknet |  short for 'Bob'" -- Blackadder II           |
 
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Date: 3 Feb 92 22:59:13 GMT
From: csus.edu!csusac!cindy!madams@decwrl.dec.com (Michael E. Adams)
Subject: public domain/share ware prog. to convert *.img to *.mac?
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
Hello:
  I have a bunch of clip art files that I would like to use on my
Macintosh.  I got them from FTPing an Atari site.
 
Host terminator.cc.umich.edu   (141.211.164.8)
    Location: /atari/applications/dtp/clipart
      FILE      rw-r--r--    535224  Oct 24 20:56   clipart1.zoo
      .... nine files ...
 
The zoo files are full of "*.img" files.  I don't know anything about
the img format so I went to the comp.sys.atari.st news group, found
the Welcome document, and it directed me to the picfmts.doc file.
 
There I found the img format and its name "GEM".  But before I set out
to write a converter, I would like to know if one already exists?
 
As I said, I would like to have some clip art for my Mac, and this was
the only collection I could find.  So I need to convert the img
format into somthing I'm used to working with (ie. have the tools
to work with ;-)
 
Do you know of any application that will run on UNIX, IBM/DOS, or Macintosh
6.0x,  to convert GEM img files to Macpaint, GIF, PICT, or anything else?
 
 
Thank you for your time.
 
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Date: Tue, 04 Feb 92 08:44:02 MET
From: "Peter A.J.M. Bronts" <U212307%HNYKUN11.bitnet@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Subject: routine needed to make GEM pictures and print them
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
I am developing a program in which I need to draw a few graphs. I want
these graphs in GEM format to be filed. Where can I find information
in C how to write such a routine, or can anyone send me such a routine?
 
Thanks Peter Bronts.
 
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Date: 4 Feb 92 02:57:09 GMT
From:
 noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!cs.utexas.edu!wupost!darwin.sura.net!haven.umd
 .edu!wam.umd.edu!dmb@arizona.edu (David M. Baggett)
Subject: Sample playing source code on AA (was Re: C, gem and sound questions)
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
In article <1992Feb03.232511.15266@CS.ORST.EDU> wilsont@prism.cs.orst.edu
 (Timothy E. Wilson) writes:
>I am just starting up with C programming on the ST.
 
[...]
 
>secondly, Where could i find source code for playing back standard sounds?
>(maybe the source to keyclick.ttp?)
 
Since you're just starting out with C, you're probably not going to
want to have a go at playing back digitized sounds just yet -- it's
fairly tricky and involves assembly language.
 
Just in case, though, assembly source to play digitized sounds
is in atari/sound/players/resound.arc on atari.archive.  The method
used is basically the same as in Digital Keyclick.
 
Dave Baggett
dmb@wam.umd.edu
 
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Date: 3 Feb 92 21:34:09 GMT
From:
 noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!wupost!unlinfo.unl.edu!hoss!
 witts@arizona.edu (Rick Wittstruck)
Subject: STe and Mark Williams C
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
        I'm considering the purchase of an Atari STE so that I can easily
upgrade to 4 megs of ram, plus blitter stuff etc, but I am worried about
my Mark Williams C package.  I've heard that MWC will not work on TOS
versions 1.04 and above.  Is this true?  Has anyone tried to use MWC from
hard disk with an STE?  It's crucial that I find out before making my
purchase, so please give any information if you can!
Any comments much appreciated!
 
        thanks,
 
        rick wittstruck
        witts@hoss.unl.edu
 
 
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Date: 28 Jan 92 14:36:45 GMT
From:
 noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!wupost!darwin.sura.net!jvnc.net!yale.edu!heife
 tz!math.fu-berlin.de!unido!olymp!sfb256!volker@arizona.edu ( Volker A. Brandt )
Subject: TEX printer problems
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
In article <1992Jan27.143514.28656@city.cs> dh108@cs.city.ac.uk (KEATES M G)
 writes:
>My problem lies in the 24-pin printer driver. I have a b/w Star LC24-200
>and I use the Epson option in the driver, as suggested in the Star manual.
>Occasionally (randomly) in the output, lines get skewed. Does anyone else
>have this annoying problem? Is it due to the Epson emulation? Can I get a
>true Star driver, or is the problem simply due to the resolution of the
>output? (I highly doubt this, but thought I'd mention it.)
 
The problem is known: This is not due to the high resolution or the Epson
driver, it's a bug in the Star firmware.
 
Christoph Strunk, the author of the CS-TeX package, knows about this.  I don't
quite remember what the fix was but it will be mentioned in the forthcoming
new version of CS-TeX.  I will post here the moment the new version is out.
 
Also, I will ask Christoph what exactly the bug is about.  I will post this
information here as well.
--
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Bitnet:   UNM409@DBNRHRZ1                              Volker A. Brandt
UUCP:     ...!unido!DBNRHRZ1.bitnet!unm409             Angewandte Mathematik
Internet: volker@sfb256.iam.uni-bonn.de                (Bonn, Germany)
 
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Date: 3 Feb 92 23:57:24 GMT
From:
 noao!asuvax!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.o
 hio-state.edu!linac!mp.cs.niu.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!roma!wmagro@arizona.edu
 (William Magro)
Subject: Uniterm manual
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
In article <8931@ncrwat.Waterloo.NCR.COM>, herborth@pinot (Chris Herborth)
 writes:
|> In article <8463@tamsun.tamu.edu> n160ao@tamuts.tamu.edu (MarkLehmann)
 writes:
|>
|> }Since the Uniterm manual is in LaTeX, it should first be run through the
|> }LaTeX macros for TeX to convert it to a dvi format.  After this, the
|> }dvi file should be converted to postscript with the "dvips" program
 available
|> }on the atari archive.  Then simply print the post script file.
|>
|> It would be _really_ nice if someone would do this, and upload the results
|> to atari.archive...
 
I hereby consider my arm twisted.  I will upload the postscript file today.
Btw, I couldn't find the kaos desktop replacement at a.a, so I got it
from a german site and uploaded it sunday.  I didn't test the archive though,
so use with caution.
 
--Bill
 
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Date: 4 Feb 92 03:53:26 GMT
From:
 noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!cs.utexas.edu!tamsun!tamuts!n160ao@arizona.edu
 (Mark Lehmann)
Subject: VI editor for Atari ST needed
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
In article <578@tuvie.UUCP> bullx@tuvie.UUCP (Fa.BULL) writes:
>         I am looking for the UNIX-Editor 'vi' running on the Atari ST!
 
The Atari Archive has two files:
 
     steve
     elvis
 
I have used steve and it is a fair port of vi.  People have said "elvis"
is better, but I haven't tried it.
 
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Date: 1 Feb 92 12:10:05 GMT
From:
 noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!samsung!umich!terminator!usenet@arizona
 .edu (Atari Archive Robot)
Subject: Weekly Posting of New Stuff
To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu
 
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Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1992 00:45:12 -0700
From: atari16 (INFO-ATARI16 (maillist admin))
 
 
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Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1992 01:30:24 -0700
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Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1992 22:45:11 -0700
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Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1992 00:30:11 -0700
From: atari16 (INFO-ATARI16 (maillist admin))
 
 
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